The Redhunter

From the article:

Robert Mead, soccer coach at Bryant Alternative High School, a public school in the Alexandria section of Fairfax County, says the academy's reputation has been unfairly marred by people who haven't even bothered to visit the school.

"We've never had one altercation" on the soccer field with the academy's players, Mr. Mead says. "My guys are hostile. Their guys keep fights from breaking out."

I've heard the above from parents of team members opposing ISA. On the other hand, I've also heard the opposite.

As mentioned in the news article, behavior on a soccer field proves nothing one way or the other as to the materials being used in the ISA classrooms.

instructing teachers to explain "that all religions, other than Islam, are false, including that of the Jews, Christians and all others."

Many Christian schools state something similar in the classroom--EXCEPT that students in those schools are further taught to witness to those of other faiths, not to kill the disbelievers.

So much time has now gone by that ISA could have printed other books and materials to submit.

I've been an ISA student from the third grade until I graduated. I've never been taught to kill anyone or inflict any kind of pain, on anyone. This is really sad. I'm proud to be raised in the US, where cultural diversity and respect of others no matter what their beliefs are is the norm, then this happens. I cannot believe the hypocrisy that is "your system". Do you guys hate us and want to nuke us? Don't target the children. Most of the students in ISA are children of Arab diplomats, who just left their whole family (in Arab culture, extended family is very important, something I noticed isn't here in the US). ISA is the only place that gathers these innocent children and brings them together, helping each other out. Whenever a new student used to come in to ISA, we would know about it a couple of weeks before. We already know who he is, what his father does, and we welcome him with open arms. We teach him how different the US is than his home country, you know basic stuff. I would love to talk more and I apologize if this isn't very clear, it's 4 in the morning and i'm just wandering the internet. Please stop spreading these false rumors about ISA. It really hurts, that place was my second home.

Woah woah woah, another point I would like to make. We certainly believe in Judaism and Christianity. We believe in your prophets. Your religions aren't false, we just believe your texts have been tampered with (to put it very, very simply) sorry for clogging your comment section.

Thank you for visiting and taking time to leave comments, FST. No need to apologize for anything. And since you were polite in your comments, I'll be the same back.

I think you missed my point, though, which is:

1. The ISA is funded and controlled by the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia (KSA)

2. The KSA is a totalitarian nightmare. As I said above: "The Saudi Arabian government is one of the most repressive on this earth. It is totalitarian in nature, and is antithetical to everything we in the West hold dear."

3. Because of this alone the academy must be closed.

4. However, it is established fact that the ISA did used to teach hate material. Whether you were exposed to it or now is immaterial.

Regarding your second comment, if you are a true Muslim then by definition you must believe that all other religions are false. In fact, by definition a member of any religion must believe that all others are false.

This said, we can all still get along peacefully. The ability of people of different religions to get along peacefully is one of the triumphs of Western civilization.

You speak of hypocrisy. Yet we allow you to build schools and mosques in the Western countries, and yet we cannot build churches or synagogues in the KSA, or most any other Muslim country for that matter. Non-Muslims cannot even travel to Mecca, yet there is nowhere in the U.S where you cannot go.

The embassy is funded by GWB long time partner in crime Bandar Bin Sultan, not the Saudi gov't.

Totalitarian nightmare? How are you explaining what's going on in the US? Illegal wiretapping, illegal torture, illegal immunity from the law for higher ups, illegal extraordinary rendition, war profiteering at the cost of the lives of your own servicemen. Ron Paul said it perfectly, "When one person can initiate war, by its definition, a republic no longer exists". Bush lied, why aren't I seeing impeachment hearings?
I don't believe KSA is hurting its people with their laws or "oppression". All these headlines you hear about KSA with the rape and female driving, are all part of the culture, not law. There is no law prohibiting women from driving. That's just how everyone got used to it. HRH King Abdullah is a reformer, and I guarantee you that by the end of his term there would be women on the road.
Homeroom teachers were, for most of the time, Americans. They would stay in side the classroom where the classes were being taught, grading work, lunch, etc (teachers lounge for middle and high school).
Islam does teach religious unity. With all due respect, this proves to me how diluted your view of Islam is because of the media and what they show. Sure, a lot of Muslims hate Jews, as it is vice versa. That was never taught to us. Prophet Mohammed Peace be upon him had a neighbor, a Jewish man. He would give the prophet a hard time whenever he left or came back in. One day the neighbor didn't do anything, so the prophet went to his house to visit him because he knew he would be sick. That's what we get taught.
I've been speaking to you with respect, please don't question whether or not I'm a true Muslim. I find that offensive and still stand by my original statement. Talk to a Muslim.

I speak of hypocrisy in the sense that your government claims freedom for all people, but it is anything but that. My government doesn't say that. They set out the constitution as being the holy book, and they stick with it. Where's my US constitution? What happened to that? petty crimes are low in KSA. Murders are low. teenage/premarital pregnancy is virtually non existent. near free health care for everyone. a gallon of oil is cheaper than a gallon of drinking water. All educational students receive a monthly stipend for their contributions. The princes hold a picnic every once in a while in the desert, where people can ask for support, whether it be financial, for a job, whatever it is, they'll help you. There were some people stranded in an African airport, more than 1,000 people got stuck in an airport. They were planning on visiting Mecca for the annual Hajj. They couldn't make it. Our king pledged round trip airfare, hotel expenses, and spending money for them when they visit KSA. Lately, I've been wanting to go back. That's something I never thought I would say

Please do go back to Saudi Arabia, FST. You're obviously unable to appreciate Western values, or understand the difference between freedom and dictatorship. We only welcome immigrants who adopt our values.

Explain to me how all the actions I listed go hand in hand with freedom. America isn't what it used to be before 9/11. It is a candy coated dictatorship, with the candy being "in national securities name..". I wouldn't be surprised if, on january 20th, Bush ends congress and claims permanent rule. Did you know Hitler was an elected leader? America isn't the land of opportunity it was when the influx of immigrants arrived in the early 1900s, where one could start a whole new life from nothing. Look at how it is now. People are being interrogated, tortured, and sent back to their countries, all because of simple mistakes like not leaving soon enough after the visa expired. Do you like history, Tom? Do you know how each couple of hundred years, there is one superpower to rule the whole world? Well the US looks like it's about to lose that title, possible to the European Union. It's been a good 230 or so years for the US, but you brought this hatred from others unto yourselves. It's sad, really.

Go back to Saudi Arabia? Isn't that the opposite of what the US is all about? spreading liberty, rights, and love to all? Why don't you explain to me wester values, and explain to me the difference between freedom and dictatorship. You maybe right.

Ok, smart guy, I'll give this one more shot

I want you to go home NOW because you're obviously unable to appreciate Western values. Anyone who defends Saudi Arabia is not someone who understands our concepts of liberty and tolerance.

In Saudi Arabia all religions except for your Wahhabist Sunni version are illegal. No citizen may believe anything else. Leaving Islam is punished by death and you know it.

The idea that Europe will be a powerhouse anytime soon is lucicrous. It is economically stagnant, with the typical unemployment rate at 10%+ per country with growth at near 0 or 1%. They've got huge old-age programs that will destroy them in the next 10-20 years (when the baby boomers retire) because they simply cannot afford the obligations. Also, a basic demographic calculation shows that the continent will be majority Muslim by the end of the century. The place will be ruled by Sharia law which is a totalitarian nightmare, not too far really from Stalinist Russia or Nazi Germany.

Oh why don't we just post the whole Bill of Rights, not a bit of which is respected in Saudi Arabia

First Amendment – Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

Second Amendment – A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.

Third Amendment – No Soldier shall, in time of peace be quartered in any house, without the consent of the Owner, nor in time of war, but in a manner to be prescribed by law.

Fourth Amendment – The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.

Fifth Amendment – No person shall be held to answer for any capital, or otherwise infamous crime, unless on a presentment or indictment of a Grand Jury, except in cases arising in the land or naval forces, or in the Militia, when in actual service in time of War or public danger; nor shall any person be subject for the same offence to be twice put in jeopardy of life or limb; nor shall be compelled in any criminal case to be a witness against himself, nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor shall private property be taken for public use, without just compensation.

Sixth Amendment – In all criminal prosecutions, the accused shall enjoy the right to a speedy and public trial, by an impartial jury of the State and district where in the crime shall have been committed, which district shall have been previously ascertained by law, and to be informed of the nature and cause of the accusation; to be confronted with the witnesses against him; to have compulsory process for obtaining witnesses in his favor, and to have the Assistance of Counsel for his defense.

Seventh Amendment – In suits at common law, where the value in controversy shall exceed twenty dollars, the right of trial by jury shall be preserved, and no fact tried by a jury, shall be otherwise reexamined in any court of the United States, than according to the rules of the common law.

Eighth Amendment - Excessive bail shall not be required, nor excessive fines imposed, nor cruel and unusual punishments inflicted.

Ninth Amendment - The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people.

Tenth Amendment - The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the states, are reserved to the states respectively, or to the people.

There is no freedom of speech in Saudi Arabia. Ditto that for religion. You can make fun of any religion in any Western country, but in Saudi Arabia making fun of Mohammed is punished by death. Sounds like a pretty terrible place to me.

Do you elect your leaders?

Do you have any political parties?

Can you start your own magazine or newspaper and publish cartoons mocking your king? or Islam and Mohammed? (we certainly know you can mock Jews over there)

Can private citizens organize demonstrations and marches, the purpose of which is to criticize government policy?

Can women hold powerful offices?

Can women even leave their house without a male escort? Does a woman's testimony count the same as a man's in court?

Can a woman be a judge?

Do you have anything like the ACLU in your country? (note that I don't agree with much of their agenda. But I am thankful that I live in a country whereby such organizations can criticize the government - a concept you don't understand)

Can Saudi citizens become Christians, Buddhists, or athiests?

That the answers to these BASIC questions are all "no" tells me that your country is a totalitarian nightmare. You're still debating whether women can drive, for pete's sake.

Speaking of women's rights how about this: "Ramadhan TV Show: Saudi Cleric Muhammad Al-'Arifi Explains Wife-Beating in Islam to Young Muslims". This one was on your LBC TV, and we know that nothing appears in your media which is not approved by the government.

Our laws are based on English Common law. So is some of Europe, the rest of which used the Napoleonic Code as its base. Both promote liberty and tolerance.

Saudi Arabia uses Sharia law. Anyone who likes that system over ours does not belong here.

FST said "I wouldn't be surprised if, on january 20th, Bush ends congress and claims permanent rule."

You are either mentally ill to believe this, or you say it because it's how you people think in the Middle East. You know your leaders do this all the time so you assume we do like wise.

Well we don't.

FST wrote "America isn't the land of opportunity it was when the influx of immigrants arrived in the early 1900s"

If we're so bad please leave. At. The. Earliest. Opportunity.

FST wrote "...petty crimes are low in KSA...."

Back in the 1930s Western aplogists said of Mussolini that "at least he made the trains run on time." Dictatorships have been defended on such grounds before and since. I'll take a higher crime rate as part of the price of liberty.

Dictators can easily reduce crime. It's called living by some horror like Sharia law. Your country is a dictatorship, or did I miss the part where you elected your king?

If you want to know the type of Muslims I respect, you can start with the American Islamic Forum for Democracy.

Now please tell me the date of your departure from our country.

And please tell me when I can open that Church or Synagogue in Mecca.

Tom, slow internet here. Or puter is clogged. Very interesting. Will get back here this evening.

Keep up the good work pal!!!

FST, if it's so good over there, why are you in the States?

Hey, and are they still ripping Bibles to shreds when foreigners carrying them arrive in Riyadh?

Hey guys, cut him a little slack. FST is reading straight from the 'talking points' list of Left wing propaganda. Has no choice. If he was to admit how fooked up the KSA is, it would be his head. I have stood in chop-chop Square. Not while the rites were being done, but there was still a faint aura of death. I'll bet it's there 24/7.
And if he was lucky enough to keep his head, KSA has REAL jails. No Color TV, beds, running water or regular meals. Or so I have been told. I was in the KSA about a job. I decided I didn't need to work that bad. Went to Pakistan instead.
I knew I would end up in Jail, since the first time a muttawa got in my face I would wring his skinny fukin neck. I have yet to see a Arab of any type who was my physical match, most SN's being underfed and uncoordinated, but given enough of them I would eventually get dragged down.
I am all for nucking the KSA. It would be a tremendous boon to humanity as well as cleaning up the gene pool. In the KSA 'extended family' means your father is also your uncle. All those recessive tend to add up.

Why are you insulting me when I tried my best to not offend anyone? I thought this was a place to have an intelligent discussion. Apparently not.

Holy crap I just read your other entries, you're a joke. Don't bother replying, I won't be checking back.