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January 13, 2011
One More Post on The Gabrielle Giffords Shooting and the Question of Blame
Unless there are major new developments this is going to be it about this incident and then we're moving on.
No, I did not watch President Obama's speech last night, nor do I plan on watching it or reading the text. Most conservative commentators that I trust said 1) His speech was very good,he said the right things and hit the right notes, and 2) the festival-campaign atmosphere with all the whooping and hollering and cheering was entirely inappropriate.
Assuming these commentators have it right, it speaks well of our president but poorly of his supporters. Given liberal behavior this week, I am not surprised.
I first heard of the shooting while at the gym. I saw it on the TV and thought to myself, what a terrible tragedy. We'll have to put up with some calls for more gun control, but that's standard operating procedure for the Sarah Brady bunch and we'll get through it. I had no idea that the left would unleash such a torrent of hate.
Let's start with this amazing video of Pima County Sheriff Clarence W. Dupnik:
Now, I'm no lawyer, nor do I play one on TV, but even I know that it's evidence first, conclusion second.
The tragic shooting of Rep Giffords taught us a lot about our political scene, it just isn't the "heated and threatening rhetoric" that the media is now talking about. The left unleashed a torrent of hate against Sarah Palin, the Tea Party movement, Fox News, and conservatives in general almost immediately after the shooting, and well before any of the facts about the motives of the shooter were known. And by "left," we're not just talking about obscure bloggers, but media people in print and on TV, and politicians.
The shooting taught us about the monumental level of raw hate that the left has for Sarah Palin and the lengths they will go in attacking her. The idea that she is to blame because of some ad that used crosshairs is insane. Reaction is summarized around the Internet, but two good pieces are at Powerline: A Disgrace to Nuts Everywhere and A Disgrace to Nuts Everywhere Part 2.
Before the motives or political affiliation of the shooter were known, a full scale assault was mounted on Palin, the Tea Party movement, conservative talk radio, and Fox News.
Throughout the first eight years of this decade conservatives listed to the left issue the most vile statements about George W Bush; "selected, not elected," "Bush lied, people died," a billion references to Bush as Hitler, usually in the form of something like "BusHitler" or "ChimpyMcHitler." Assassination chic, films about his assassination, and all manner of over-the-top statements were all the rage.
And let's be clear; the hateful, overheated, and sometimes even violent imagery in the rhetoric didn't just come from obscure bloggers. Democrats in Congress and media commentators were guilty as well.
Would you like evidence? Two quickies: Michelle Malkin has put together a progressive "climate of hate:" An illustrated primer, 2000-2010. The Washington Times editorial Taking advantage of tragedy: Hate crimes are down, but liberals use violence to target conservatism provides examples of some pretty big-name Democrats and liberals using rhetoric with some awfully violent rhetoric in it.
Last August James Jay Lee took three people hostage at the Discovery Channel building in Montgomery County, just outside of Washington DC. After a four hour standoff, a tactical squad shot and killed Lee after he pointed his pistol at a hostage. Lee specifically said that he had been inspired by former Vice President Al Gore's documentary "An Inconvenient Truth." Fortunately in this case no one else was killed, but they could easily have been.
Did we see a media campaign to urge environmentalists to "tone down the rhetoric?" Stop their hysterical claims that "the earth has a fever" and that there was "a planetary emergency?" Anyone tell Al Gore to apologize? Of course not. In fact, the reaction of the right was to NOT exploit this, but rather to say "if this had been the other way around the left would exploit it." Sure enough, they have.
Conclusion
What happened in Tucson was that a lone nutcase went on a terrible rampage and killed a wounded many people. Maybe we need to ban the extra large magazines, I'm actually sympathetic to that, although that's a knee jerk reaction that won't prevent diddly.
We've got to find a way to identify and isolate mentally ill people, and keep them from buying guns, but that's a complex issue. Besides what's mentioned in this article on the subject, the other issue is that if someone doesn't want to go to treatment you can't make them. I'm no lawyer, but even basic research shows that you can't incarcerate people against their will most of the time. And anyway, what constitutes mental illness, and who makes the determination? It all seems to obvious after one of these incidents, but there are genuine civil rights concerns.
My heart goes out to the victims of this tragedy. I do hope they knew God so that they are in a better place. You never know when your time will end. Have you said all the things you need to say to your loved ones? Have you gotten in good with your maker?
Finally; what is going on here is clear: The left is mad that they lost the Nov 2010 elections and is trying to get even. They want to shut down conservative talk radio and Fox News, and marginalize the Tea Party movement.
It won't work.
Posted by Tom at January 13, 2011 8:30 PM
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In my view, the authorities in Tucson dropped the ball before Loughner went on his shooting spree. There were clear signs that he was mentally unstable. Who tried to do anything to help him?
Posted by: Always On Watch
at January 14, 2011 11:22 AM
Look. I am going to say this only once. There is a difference between putting a bumper sticker on that back of your car that sates: "Nobody died when Clinton lied" and exclaiming "You lie" during President Obama's State of the Union Address. Are we clear on this? There is a difference between some anonymous person "on the left" comparing George W. Bush to Hitler and venom that is spewed by Michelle Malkin, Rush Limbaugh and their ilk on a daily basis.
Next. Does anyone reading this comment find the number of firearm related deaths in the United States acceptable? So the issue is, how to preserve our 2nd Amendment Rights and reduce firearm deaths. Unfortunately, making 30 round clips unavailable will do little to reduce firearm deaths. Thankfully, incidents such as the Tuscon shootings are rare but such carnage will only occupy the headlines for a few weeks.
TLGK
Posted by: The Loop Garoo Kid at January 15, 2011 6:34 PM
No Loop, we are not at all clear on this. Mostly because your comment is mostly incoherent so I'm not totally sure what, if any, points you are trying to make. It's not up to your usual standards at all, and my guess is it was written in haste, and probably in anger.
And you completely ignored the main point of my post.
Re Joe Wilson: The Democrats booed Bush during his 2005 state of the union address. Not one but many. Wilson should not have yelled "you lie" at Obama, and the GOP as a party criticized him for it.
Trying to say that only anonymous people on the left compared Bush to Hitler is laughable. You're not serious about that, are you? The charge was made by all sorts of media and Hollywood people. Most Democrat politicians avoided going quite that far, but if you google around you'll see the comparison being made by all sorts of media and Hollywood types.
And then there was the entire "Bush Lied, People Died" business, which was spewed by big-name Democrat after Democrat. I'd say this created a "climate of hate." Accusation after accusation that Bush invented the whole WMD thing, that we tortured, all of it. The ranting and raving went on by everyone from Al Gore to Ted Kennedy. Do you actually need links and quotes for that stuff?
Oh yeah, and the Democrats are the party of Michael Moore and Al Sharpton. Prominent Democrats fawned all over them and still do. I'll take Rush Limbaugh and Michelle Malkin any day over them!
I'm totally bewildered as to what you're trying to say about firearms.
My Bottom Line Interesting, but my post isn't really about any of that. It's about the fact that immediately after the shooting of Rep Giffords, well before we knew anything about the shooter the left unleashed a torrent of hate on Sarah Palin, the Tea Party movement, Fox News, and conservatives in general.
Liberal after liberal - big names - insisted that it was a "climate of hate" that somehow inspired the killer. All without a scintilla of evidence.
There is zero evidence anything any conservative said led to the shooting.
The obvious conclusion is that liberals exploited the tragedy to try and silence their political opponents.
You completely ignored this in your comment.
Posted by: Tom the Redhunter at January 15, 2011 9:02 PM



