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February 3, 2011
The Protests in Egypt Turn Violent: No Good Can Come of This
The protests in Egypt have turned into a near-revolution. What started in Tunisia has spread to Sudan, Jordan, Yemen, and of course Egypt. There are demonstrations scheduled for Syria and Algeria tomorrow, all this according to numerous reports.
Having the most people and being the strongest military, what happens in Egypt could set the tone for the rest of the region.

The longer the conflict continues the greater chance for a bad outcome.
In my last post on this on Sunday, I quoted Barry Rubin who said there were three probable outcomes. Summarizing, they are
1) The military deposes Mubarak and takes over, but otherwise keeps the regime
2) A revolution ensues, and radical elements, led by the Muslim Brotherhood, take over
3) Neither side gets the upper hand, and a bloody civil war ensues.
Now I'll add number four as what I think will happen
4) Mubarak hangs on and/or he is deposed and the military takes over, but either way elections are held in short order. A supposedly moderate government is formed and the world breaths a sign of relief. We're told that Egypt is on the path to pluralism and democracy.
And then, a few years later, the radicals are in control.
Revolutionary History
Let's go through a few popular uprisings that turned into revolutions. I'm leaving the American Revolution out of it because it was more a colonial revolt, and it was characterized by a long war instead of a mass uprising, and it is that latter model we want to examine.
French Revolution - In 1789 Louis XVI called for a meeting of the Estates-General to discuss a tax problem. Things spiraled out of control, and a revolution ensued with no small amount of violence. But when the dust settled, it did seem that there was hope for democracy ("liberté, égalité, fraternité") in France. There were radicals involved from the outset, but moderates (the Girondists) held much power. But within a few years the radical Jacobins had taken power and during the ensuiing Reign of Terror (September 5, 1793, to July 27, 1794) they sent their enemies to the guillotine. Eventually being deposed themselves, the whole thing devolved into the military dictatorship of Napoleon Bonaparte.
Russian Revolution - For a variety of reasons the Russian people were tired of the Romanov dynasty, and in 1917 decided to do something about it. There were two revolutions in 1917, one in February and the other in October. The February one left the Social Democrats in control, at least nominally. However, in October the Bolsheviks seized power.
Iranian Revolution - Demonstrations against the Shah started in 1978 and within a year the country was paralyzed by strikes. The Shah fled, Khomeini returned and the country voted to become an Islamic Republic. The first president of the new republic, Banisadr, was a relative moderate, but fell out of favor with Khomeini and was impeached and removed from office. Wikipedia has it right in that ""what began as an authentic and anti-dictatorial popular revolution based on a broad coalition of all anti-Shah forces was soon transformed into an Islamic fundamentalist power-grab."
Philippine Revolution In 1986, President Ferdinand Marcos was reelected in an election widely held to be fraudulent. Already upset over the assassination of Benigno Servillano "Ninoy" Aquino, Jr, in 1983, elements within the armed forces organized to overthrow Marcos. The people saw what was happening and mass demonstrations ensued. The Philippine communist party was taken by surprise and largely sidelined. Marcos fled, and by all accounts the Philippines are a free country today.
Romanian Revolution - . Nicolae Ceausescu ran Romania with an iron fist for 25 years, then one day in December 1989 we heard about disturbances in the streets, then in a few days there was a revolution and he was hopscotching around the country in a helicopter, and a week later he and his wife were shot dead by firing squad. The victors set up a democracy, and by anybody's reckoning is a free country today.
Cedar Revolution - A popular uprising that followed the assassination of former Lebanese Prime Minister Rafik Hariri in 2005 led to the ouster of Syrian troops. Without their presence, it seemed that the country had a chance to the relative prosperity, stability, and democracy the country had enjoyed before the start of the Lebanese Civil War in 1975. Today Hizbollah is the most powerful element in the government.
In four of my six examples, what started as a popular uprising against a tyrannical regime ended up being hijacked by extremists who turned the government into something worse than it was before.
How did Romania and the Philippines escape? Put another way, why did France, Russia, Iran, and Lebanon succumb to extremists? I'm not entirely sure, and such complex events are not given to pat analysis. But I think there are a few factors we can identify
- If there is a healthy civil culture, there is a greater chance the country will end up as a true democracy
- If no powerful and/or well organized extremist group is waiting in the wings, the greater the chance the country will end up as a true democracy
- If the country has a Western culture the greater the chance the country will end up as a true democracy
What else? Help me out, commenters.
This is Not Encouraging
A few hours ago the New York Times broke the story that the Obama Administration wants Mubarak to go now, and that the Muslim Brotherhood should be part of a provisional government:
The Obama administration is discussing with Egyptian officials a proposal for President Hosni Mubarak to resign immediately, turning over power to a transitional government headed by Vice President Omar Suleiman with the support of the Egyptian military, administration officials and Arab diplomats said Thursday.Even though Mr. Mubarak has balked, so far, at leaving now, officials from both governments are continuing talks about a plan in which, Mr. Suleiman, backed by Sami Enan, chief of the Egyptian armed forces, and Field Marshal Mohamed Tantawi, the Defense Minister, would immediately begin a process of constitutional reform.
The proposal also calls for the transitional government to invite members from a broad range of opposition groups, including the banned Muslim Brotherhood, to begin work to open up the country's electoral system in an effort to bring about free and fair elections in September, the officials said.
Senior administration officials said that the proposal is one of several options under discussion with high-level Egyptian officials around Mr. Mubarak, though not him directly, in an effort to convince him to step down now.
No long term good can come of this.
It's not just that Egypt is the home of the Muslim Brotherhood, because that organization has chapters in a lot of countries. It's also because Egypt itself has become more Islamist in the past few decades. A country that looked like it was becoming more Western in the 1950s and 60s has taken a serious turn toward radicalism. I doubt that can be reversed with a few votes, but hopefully I'll be proven wrong.
Posted by Tom at February 3, 2011 9:00 PM
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In my view, similar uprisings will soon occur throughout the Middle East -- possibly even in Saudi.
Also in my view, we are on a path to world war. I'm a pessimist, I guess.
Posted by: Always On Watch
at February 4, 2011 10:05 AM
Old Snake Hunter Sez,
We are poor little lambs who have lost our way, Baaa, baa, baa
And the Wolf salivates, Mmmm, mm!
Where are these bold guardians..of
freedom, in the early dawn?
Gone, gone, all gone. - reb
___ ___
Posted by: Ralph E. at February 7, 2011 11:33 PM
---In four of my six examples, what started as a popular uprising against a tyrannical regime ended up being hijacked by extremists who turned the government into something worse than it was before.---
Well yes, but this selected sample was chosen to prove your point. The following uprisings/revolutions deposed corrupt tyrants through mostly peaceful, mass protests and replaced them with much more democratic rulers, but this select sample doesn't 'prove' that uprisings are always successful:
-Ukraine's Orange Revolution (2004/2005)
-Indonesian removal of Suharto (1998)
-Iran's green revolution (failed, 2009)
-Carnation Revolution, Portugal (1974)
-Velvet Revolution in Czechoslovakia (1989)
Of all the eastern European revolutions, Romania was the only one with butchery of the leadership. Poland, E. Germany, Czechoslovakia, Hungary and Bulgaria all fell amid popular uprisings. All of these countries are better off today. Only Romania, where the particularly tyrannical Ceausescu ended up executed in a violent end to the Cold War.
The Weekly Standard has an interesting article "Fears of a Muslim Brotherhood Takeover are Overblown" that offers an interesting insight into Egypt.
Posted by: jason at February 13, 2011 3:13 PM
Poland, E. Germany, Czechoslovakia, Hungary, Portugal, and Bulgaria are in Europe, and that makes all the difference in the world. They're Western countries which have been influenced to one degree or another by the Renaissance, Reformation and Enlightenment. Can't say that for Egypt, which has been moving backwards into Islamism for decades.
Posted by: Tom the Redhunter at February 13, 2011 8:19 PM



