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July 13, 2011
NATO Can't Even Beat Libya
NATO has been fighting Libya for almost four months and victory is nowhere in sight. Of course, it's hard to know what exactly victory is, since no coherent, consistent, objective has been given. One day it was to protect civilians, then to get rid of Khadaffy. We're not helping the rebels then we are; they're doctors and lawyers one day but then the next we're not sure. What we are trying to achieve is still unclear.
But whatever we're doing, it's not working: "NATO" is running out of ammunition. This, mind you, is the alliance that was founded to fight the Soviet-led Warsaw Pact in World War III. It is now so feeble it can't even beat a 5th rate power.
Well, not quite. Italy and France could whomp Libya, if they wanted to. And Italy alone could build a military that would make short work of the Libyan armed forces, it it wanted to. But that's just it.
Rope-A-Dope
Belmont Club
July 11, 2011
by Richard Fernandez
Reuters reports that some NATO countries participating in the Libya operation have punched themselves out, although Khadaffy is still standing. "New U.S. Defense Secretary Leon Panetta said on Monday that some NATO allies operating in Libya could see their forces 'exhausted' within 90 days." European forces are wearing out from the beating they are delivering to the Libyan dictator.
"The problem right now, frankly, in Libya is that ... within the next 90 days a lot of these other countries could be exhausted in terms of their capabilities, and so the United States, you know, is going to be looked at to help fill the gap," Panetta said, speaking to troops in Baghdad.AFP added that the Italians are pulling out their carrier and Norway is pulling out its planes. The Italians have called for a "political solution" in Libya. France is reported to be secretly negotiating with Khadaffy for a settlement, according to Saif Khadaffy, who says talks have been ongoing between a Libyan envoy and the French President. The reality is that Europe's combat power will soon have to be cut back in Libya unless the US takes up the slack.
Among the European countries involved in Libya, Norway has announced it will withdraw its six F-16 fighters on August 1, and Italy is pulling out its Garibaldi aircraft carrier, for a saving of 80 million euros.Panetta said that Nato's European members must "make efforts to develop their defence capability; they're gonna have to invest in that kind of partnership as well.
"We can't be the ones that carry the financial burden in all of these situations," Panetta said.
Washington bears 75 per cent of Nato's defence budget. Of the 28 Nato countries, only the United States, France, Britain, Greece and Albania meet the Nato threshold of two percent of GDP spent on defence.
The problem facing President Obama is that, by his own account, there isn't even a war on in Libya, or nothing that amounts to one. It will be hard to make the case that he needs to come to the assistance of allies in military need, if that need has by defined into nonexistence by none other than himself.
If France and Italy have negotiate a settlement that leaves Khadaffy in power they will have provided a textbook example of international rope-a-dope, one convincingly demonstrates the limitations of feeble muscles allied to soft-power. It will be the perfect companion to the emerging debacle to financially save Greece. Europe has punched itself out fighting a non-war against a 5th rate country in North Africa. Far from covering themselves in glory enhancing the prestige of the old continent they will have succeeded in making themselves nothing but a laughing stock. The only problem is that there will probably be serious consequences.
Exactly. The Ron Paul types who think that we can pull up the drawbridge and largely ignore the rest of the world are wrong. Europeans who think they can keep their drawbridge down and rely on United Nations resolutions are also wrong. What happens around the world affects our economies and what immigrants come knocking at our door (or more likely sneaking in around it).
But as Fernandez says in a comment to his own post, "the problem isn't power or even money." Any one mid-sized European country could beat Libya, if it wanted to. The problem is that they are paralyzed into inaction. Europeans, and perhaps increasingly Americans, don't care to rouse themselves to face up to the big issues of our day.
Instead it is obsessed with ludicrously small issues. The political system worries endlessly about soap opera problems, sexual politics, racial quotas, "climate change" etc. This littleness promotes people like Herman Von Rompuy or Julia Gillard or Barack Obama -- complete ciphers -- to positions of power for no other reason than that they check all the boxes. A terrible diminuation of mind, an unbelievable poverty of thinking, has descended on the Western world.
Posted by Tom at July 13, 2011 8:15 PM
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Snake Hunter sez,
On March 19/20 U.S. Naval Forces hit Libyan Ground-to-Air Missile Batteries, plus Tripoli's Command & Control with 200 Tomahawks. That's a deliberate Act of War by any measurable standard.
Then, Commander-in Grief Obama whimped out, turned control over to NATO and the Arab League!
Goofy Gadaffi is still walking around Tripoli shaking his fists, and killing his fellow muslims.
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See our March, 2011 post for the details. - reb
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Posted by: Ralph E. at July 20, 2011 12:00 AM
Didn't Obama say this Libyan adventure of his was supposed to last "days not weeks?"
Now it's been going on for months with nothing to show for it.
At what point does Obama admit his policy is a failure?
Posted by: Mike's America at July 25, 2011 10:07 PM
He'll admit it is a failure when it is politically expedient for him to do so. For Obama, all foreign policy/military decisions are made based on how they'll affect him politically here at home.
Posted by: The Redhunter
at July 26, 2011 8:43 PM
Snake Hunter Sez,
President O-Bla-bla doesn't make the big decisions, cuz he doesn't have the stomach for it.
The important, or delicate problems are always run by his top advisor Valerie Jarrett, or S.E.I.U. Union Boss, or Puppet-Master G. Soros.
reb
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Posted by: Ralph E. at July 28, 2011 11:54 PM



